EP23 - The Abbey Grange - The Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes Podcast

así que cuando nuestra historia comienza un carruaje de la policía de kent corre a través de la noche su destino una casa solariega distante y solitaria a su llegada la policía es conducida al lugar de un crimen espantoso sir eustis brackenstahl yace muerto sobre su hogar, sangre y sesos salpicados por todo el habitación el caso es uno de asesinato y así comienza la aventura de la abbey grange en baker street holmes despierta a su amigo watson del letargo ven watson ven el juego es la culpa el episodio inicial filmado para el regreso de sherlock holmes la abbey grange trajo al actor edward hardwick y el productor june wyndham davies en la serie por primera vez davies, habiendo disfrutado de las historias cuando era niña, ya estaba bastante familiarizado con el gran detective, incluso habiendo llegado a escribir un musical del sabueso de los baskerville en su juventud. años para Peter Haning, admitió que estaba un poco intimidada ante la perspectiva de hacerse cargo del programa, dijo que era un gran desafío que le pidieran que lo hiciera. hacerse cargo de la serie cuando ya estaba establecida y era enormemente popular y darle un impulso adicional, pero estoy lleno de admiración por jeremy brett, es un actor tan cariñoso y da un gran aliento a todos los que lo rodean sherlock holmes nunca ha tenido un mejor intérprete en mi opinión y creo que la pareja de jeremy brett y edward hardwick es excelente y continuaron evolucionando los personajes en cada historia, de hecho, helen cohen y el bautista marcel davies recordó su parte en la transición entre watsons ella dijo que conocí a david burke cuando iba a hacer el regreso acababa de recibir una oferta maravillosa para ir al teatro memorial de stratford y vino a mí y me dijo que esto es terrible, tú te harás cargo y yo me voy y se ve tan mal, pero uno de los Lo que he hecho a lo largo de mi carrera es que si un actor tiene la oportunidad de mejorar su carrera, nunca lo detuve y nunca lo haría fue Edward Hardwick Elegí ser el Dr. Watson y realmente creo que Era mejor que David tuviera un enfoque más moderno y una personalidad más abrasiva. Edward es para mí el Dr. Watson definitivo. Tiene todo lo que dice Conan Doyle. Es el actor más encantador con el que trabajar y un gran amigo personal en el tren. Holmes y Watson viajan a la escena del crimen bueno, creo que hemos luchado lo suficiente hogares espléndido abby grange martian kent 3 30 am mi querido señor holmes, debería estar muy contento de su ayuda inmediata en lo que promete ser un caso muy notable, hay algo bastante en su línea excepto por liberar a la dama me encargaré de que todo se mantenga exactamente como lo encontré pero te ruego que no pierdas ni un instante ya que es difícil dejar señor eustis ahí tuyo infiel papi hopkins espectro hopkins te ha llamado siete veces en cada ocasión su La convocatoria ha sido totalmente justificada. Supongo que cada uno de sus casos ha llegado a tu colección . Debo admitir que tienes una parte de la selección. Gracias. Vuelve de gran parte de w. que deploro tus narrativas, tu fatal hábito de ver todo desde el punto de vista de una historia en lugar de un ejercicio científico ha arruinado lo que podría haber sido una serie de demostraciones instructivas e incluso clásicas, ¿por qué no las escribes tú mismo? querido Watson yo en mis años de decadencia Edward Hardwicke inicialmente problemas para encontrar el equilibrio en el Grange abadía literalmente a Hanson Leanne de NPR Jeremy Brett recordó probablemente el mejor una de las mejores personas que he conocido en mi vida y quería ajuste así que vio las 13 películas anteriores decidió intentar parecerse un poco a david burke tanto como pudo bendecirlo, así que se puso una alfombra, estoy en un tupé y um y le puso elevado los talones y la primera película que dispararon juntos fue el gran rango y estábamos corriendo por un campo y él, por supuesto, estos tacones eran demasiado altos, por lo que se resbalaba y se deslizaba y dije, oh, Edward, sácalos, doblaré las rodillas durante el resto de la película, así que así es como nosotros lo adaptó y lo curó en peter hammond, el director de abbey grange también proporcionó a hardwick una dirección de personajes muy necesaria por la que estaba muy agradecido, recordó que abbey grange fue la primera en la que estuve involucrado y un director peter hammond que posteriormente hizo una muchos de ellos lo hicieron y él me dio un par de notas que fueron muy importantes para mí y marcaron una gran diferencia en la forma en que miraba el parque había una secuencia en el rango de la abadía donde Holmes caminaba de un lado a otro tratando de trabajar esta cosa y Hammond me dijo que quiero que fumes y yo dije que sí lo que fumo una vez dijo cigarrillo alguien fuma un cigarrillo de tocador y él dijo que no no no dijo que mantuviera el cigarrillo muy cerca de su cara, no lo aleje también lejos y realmente no significa nada en su explicación, pero en el contexto de lo que estábamos haciendo, inmediatamente me hizo pensar que sí, eso sugiere tiempo y concentración y de alguna manera desencadenó algo en la parte posterior de mi cabeza que me hizo pensar. entinta lo que no sé por qué y no pude explicártelo pero recuerdo haberle dicho a jeremy lo siento antes de que eso sucediera recuerdo haberle dicho que siento que estoy desapareciendo dentro de mi disfraz llegando a la abadía grange holmes y watson son recibidos por el inspector Hopkins, quien lamentablemente les informa que su viaje ha sido en vano los asaltantes han sido identificados positivamente por la señora de la casa lady brackenstall holmes, sin embargo, tiene dudas y le preocupa encontrar heridas en lady brakenstall que, sin embargo, omitió en su declaración inicial. la señora confiesa que su esposo era un alcohólico violento y con eso comienza su relato les contaré sobre anoche eustis se retiró alrededor de las diez y media los sirvientes ya se habían ido a sus cuartos que son donde en el ala este solo mi esposo Teresa y yo dormimos en el bloque central los sirvientes no habrían escuchado nada cómo te retiras para entonces yo estaba en mi habitación nunca me jubilé en vivo visto a la señora en la cama gracias instalé esta habitación De hecho, tengo la costumbre de caminar para ver que la casa esté segura porque, por razones obvias, no siempre se puede confiar en Eustis a ese respecto, pero cuando examinó el comedor esa noche, de repente se encontró cara a cara con un hombre. intruso un hombre grande bastante anciano por un momento nos miramos fijamente luego otros dos hombres entraron detrás de él y él vino a buscarme debo haber estado inconsciente por algunos minutos fue entonces cuando mi desafortunado esposo entró en la habitación donde se ocuparon de él como verás, creo que me desmayé de nuevo no estoy seguro de que los eventos exactos sean difíciles entré y salí de la conciencia, entiendes , sé que limpiaron la habitación con plata y deben haberse sacado una botella de oporto. de lo cual los vi beber el hombre que me golpeó era un anciano con barba los otros más jóvenes la cara suave sí finalmente comprobaron que estaba bien atado y se fueron llevándose esto con ellos cómo se dio la alarma la señora no había venido arriba rs antes dijo que me seguiría en breve, así que a la medianoche bajé en caso de que se hubiera quedado dormida leyendo un libro lo que odio hacer allí encontré a su pobre cordero tal como ella dice y él en el suelo su sangre y cerebro por toda la habitación lo suficiente como para sacar a una mujer de su ingenio y amordazada y atada y su propio vestido manchado con él ella nunca quiso coraje es la señorita mary frazier de adelaide y lady bracken puesto de avigrain solo aprende nuevas formas de la elegante dama brackenstall fue interpretada aquí por la actriz australiana anne louise lambert nacida en brisbane en 1955 lambert encontró su primer trabajo actoral en sydney apareciendo en varias telenovelas de televisión su gran oportunidad llegó en 1975 cuando el legendario director peter weir después de ver a lambert en un comercial de televisión de fanta Soda decidió que ella sería perfecta para el papel principal en su próxima película un picnic en hanging rock, una película que se convertiría en un gran clásico de culto , interpretaría muchos papeles protagónicos tanto en cine como en televisión en Incluyendo las borgias el contrato del dibujante y la casa de hancock y originalmente fue elegida como la princesa irlanda en la épica duna de ciencia ficción de david lynch de 1984, pero fue reemplazada en el último momento por la actriz virginia madsen, pero lambert continuó trabajando de manera constante y en 2004 apareció en voltereta una película que ganó el premio a la mejor película en los premios del instituto de cine de australia de 2004 en esta época lambert dirigió su atención a otro campo de la psicoterapia y actualmente reside en el suburbio de balmain, en sydney, trabajando principalmente como consejera de vida psicoterapeuta y entrenadora a la edad de 65 años. en el comedor de la abadía, grange watson examina el cuerpo de sir eustis, eso es un golpe de ferocidad salvaje, un solo golpe, creo, así que es una herida bastante sencilla, ves que comienza así debajo de la oreja y luego cruza ambas esferas del hueso parietal en tal ángulo, pero este lado está destrozado hasta la sutura coronal.Nunca he visto algo así.Un hombre poderoso, la zelda ranchera, toda la mitad de su oficio. es violencia pero ciertamente dejó su marca registrada lo que me gana es cómo Randall podría hacer una locura sabiendo que la dama podría describirlos y que no podíamos dejar de reconocer la descripción que la mente criminal tiene sus peculiaridades de crueles sin conciencia en ese sentido. es tan individual y curioso como cualquier otro un avaro conocido puede ser secretamente caritativo, por lo que este violento randall puede trazar la línea en el asesinato de una mujer inconsciente o bien puede creer que ella no lo vio, oh, ¿cómo es eso que dijo que ella testifica que ellos se miraron el uno al otro, sí, pero era ella quien sostenía la luz, lo que Randall pudo haber visto fue principalmente la llama de una vela parpadeante la cara detrás de ella una máscara distorsionada él pudo haber sido lo suficientemente falto de imaginación para haber pensado que ella no vio más que él lo dejó inconsciente de la siguiente instancia así para sus propósitos resolver su problema watson ahora le impongo que busque la alfombra de pavo que cuatro casas vela cera watson vela funciona holmes dirige su atención a la s ervice bell una cuerda curiosa que se agarró para atar a la víctima femenina, pero Watson llama la atención de regreso a la alfombra una dispersión de obras y una muy ligera quemadura invisible pero dejando su olor característico la dama habría caído aquí grand habría arrebatado la vela biblioteca de inmediato supongo que es donde se tomaron su refresco para calmar sus nervios sí porche ¿alguien todavía decir que sacacorchos del mayordomo no se utilizó ningún señor que estaba sin sentido en el momento en que la botella fue abierta bastante por lo que se abrió con un tornillo de bolsillo, probablemente contenía en un cuchillo si se examina la parte superior del corcho se dará cuenta que el tornillo fue conducido en tres veces antes de que se extrae el corcho esta tornillo largo habría paralizado y dibuja con un solo tirón cuando se captura este sujeto es probable que encontrará que tiene un cuchillo multiplex en su posición excelente señor holmes estos tres vasos me desconciertan debo confesar si ladybug todavía dice que ella realmente vio los tres hombres bebiendo, oh, sí, ella lo tenía claro, entonces hay un final, ¿qué más se puede decir? Michael Cox estaba muy satisfecho con el resultado de esta entrega de la serie, pero en su libro hizo una serie de advertencias para su elogio que escribió la investigación inicial de la escena del crimen está adornada con una demostración de cuán alto una luz colocada frente a la cara puede cegar al observador a lo que hay detrás de ella me temo que esto no es muy convincente y prefiero la investigación tradicional de la cuerda de la campana y las ataduras para las que se utilizó jeremy escala la chimenea con un estilo elegante, pero desafortunadamente el ángulo de la cámara revela un cableado eléctrico moderno que no debería estar allí, el punto de inflexión en este caso es, por supuesto, la observación de holmes del sedimento en la tercera copa de vino conan doyle lo llamó columpio lo llamamos costra nunca lo he encontrado una pista muy persuasiva, pero tal vez sea porque rara vez bebo oporto en el tren de regreso a lo ndon Holmes tiene una epifanía y a medida que llegan a su destino, volver pasaje inmediatamente seguro a la escena del crimen Watson se nos ha deslumbrado de observación por parte de la belleza de esa señora puede ser verdad pero no necesariamente lo hablan no había puerto cada vaso, pero solo había costra en un vaso, el último vaso lleno es el que tiene más probabilidades de contener la costra, estoy de acuerdo si el último vertido se había acercado al fondo de la botella pero la botella estaba medio llena y se había agitado, la costra estaba presente en todo el puerto lo que entonces supones que solo se usaron dos vasos y que las heces de ambos se vertieron en un tercero para dar la falsa impresión de que había tres personas, entiendo que si estoy en lo cierto watson entonces en un instante esto El caso se eleva desde el lugar común hasta lo extraordinariamente notable que será el tren de Kent, ¿qué haría que en la abadía de Grange Holmes y Watson realizarán su propia investigación y en una zanja cercana? holmes espía un extraño artefacto la lápida rota de un perro mascota llamado fudge fudge ladyback y se detiene perro mascota imaginamos muere puede que no sea demasiado imaginativo sugerir que la pobre criatura desafortunada fue literalmente asesinada por la razón por la que apenas entré en Lo hizo en un ataque de rabia demente por el que por un rufián sádico borracho uno de los asesinos no watson el marido de la dama el último de los puestos de helechos brackenstone él consideró que nadie más que un miembro de la casa podría destrozar una lápida y tener permaneció en su lugar ¿Por qué brackenstorm debe tener tal obsesión por un animal de compañía que prohibirá cualquier recuerdo de él viste las marcas, por supuesto, en el brazo de la dama sí, me sorprendió que no te interesaran más, eran puñaladas hechas por un una aguja larga o un alfiler de sombrero esta señora que ha estado viviendo con miedo de nuestra seguridad física en las casas del comedor entra en acción trepándose sobre el manto de la chimenea para volver a examinar el gancho de la cuerda de la campana que faltaba, sus ojos se agrandaban al darse cuenta de que se había perdido una pista vital, a diferencia de la cuerda deshilachada que se usó para atar las manos de las damas, el borde que quedaba en el gancho se cortó limpio londres de su vida, pero ahora la cadena está casi completa tienes a tus hombres hombre watson hombre solo uno qué persona tan notable fuerte como un león activo como una ardilla diestro con los dedos y, finalmente, sorprendentemente rápido esperó confrontando a lady brackenstall holmes le suplica para revelar la verdad de su terrible experiencia, pero la dama se adhiere obstinadamente a su historia estoy convencida de que eres una mujer muy probada si confías en mí y me tratas como a una amiga, puedes encontrar que justificaré esa confianza, ¿qué quieres de mí? hacer que me diga el sr verdad ho no no no no golpee por favor un almacén de soporte es de ninguna utilidad es posible que haya oído hablar de cualquier pequeña reputación que yo pueda presentar voy a picar todo en el hecho de que su historia es una fabricación completa eres un impud amigo entrante, intentas decir que mi amante ha mentido no tienes nada que decirme te he dicho todo lo que pienso una vez más, ¿no sería mejor ser franco? te he dicho todo lo que sé lo siento como holmes y Watson salen de las casas de la finca toma nota de un tronco peculiar en el lago impasible desde su visita anterior, según el productor ejecutivo Michael Cox, los terrenos de Abbey Grange son un compuesto de tres grandes casas en el lado sur de Manchester Adlington que habían aparecido antes. En la franja moteada de Dunham, desordenada y estable entre ellos, proporcionaron un hogar imponente para la familia brackenstall que incluía un lago aunque, por desgracia, no era uno congelado como en la historia, así que en lugar de la presencia de un agujero misteriosamente conveniente en el hielo marcado por un cisne solitario el episodio utilizó un tronco flotante que no se movió deteniéndose en las oficinas de la línea cruzada sur holmes descubre el nombre de los tripulantes singulares, ambos presentes en el viaje de lady brakenstall fro m adelaide y actualmente nació en londres un honorable capitán llamado jack crocker en su libro un estudio en celuloide michael cox agregó una breve nota bibliográfica a su cobertura de este episodio perteneciente al capitán jack crocker que escribió porque me crié en el la revista strand y las primeras reimpresiones en inglés de las historias en forma de libro Siempre pienso en ese primer oficial como jack croaker deletreado croker, así que fue una sorpresa escuchar a holmes referirse a él en esta película como crocker crocker por alguna razón, esta ortografía se usó en las ediciones americanas y en la década de 1980 todos tuvimos que acostumbrarnos al texto americano de las historias el doble día completo sherlock holmes, que también es la base del ómnibus pingüino que ahora es la versión más ampliamente disponible y la adición que se utiliza para referencia de todos los que escriben sobre el canon, pero para mí nunca reemplazará la edición recopilada de dos volúmenes publicada por primera vez en este país por john murray en 1928 y 1929.Recuerdo vívidamente ber pagando siete chelines y seis peniques de dinero de bolsillo cuidadosamente ahorrado para una reimpresión de los cuentos en su tela roja y su envoltorio amarillo que sería hace casi 50 años y que sigue siendo la adición que busco primero en la abadía grange la policía siguen una nota de las casas para arrastrar el tronco del lago atado a su parte inferior encuentran el alijo de plata que supuestamente fue robado por la pandilla de lewisham más tarde holmes y watson reciben a un visitante en baker street capitán crocker siéntate tengo tu telegrama y he venido a la r, dijiste que escuché que estuviste en la oficina, no hay forma de escapar de ti, hay que hablar, hombre, no puedes quedarte ahí y jugar al gato y al ratón conmigo, ¿qué sabes que me das una cicatriz? Watson muerde a ese capitán Crocker y trata de no dejar que tus nervios se vayan contigo. No debería sentarme aquí fumando contigo si pensara que eras un criminal común. Dime qué usaste para asegurar la plata al tronco flotante, supongo. era guardia de pesca desde la sala de armas, pero yo no estaba presente en su recuperación Estoy en lo cierto, ¿qué quieres la justicia para quienes que no somos partidarios sólo queremos que se haga justicia que es toda la tripa muy bien fue que la pesca sin tarta de bramante hay un retroceso a mis días antes del mástil cuando era joven incluso ahora siempre llevo monedas de plata y un cordel largo y una mentira multiplex ¿cómo diablos sabes que ahora dame un relato verdadero de todo lo que pasó con la gama abec anoche sea ​​franco conmigo y podemos hacer algunos buenos trucos conmigo y te aplastaré johnson bueno, una cosa diré primero no me arrepiento de nada no temo nada y lo haría todo de nuevo si tuviera que estar orgulloso del trabajo en el mapa ese es mi lado de las cosas solo mi lado cuando pienso en mary dulce mary fraser pienso en meterla en este maldito negocio que convierte mi alma en agua el capitán crocker relata el primer encuentro con mary frazier de adelaide cuando era primer oficial en el barco the rock de gibraltar juntos bailaron toda la noche y wh ile ella solo había pretendido amistad crocker se había enamorado pero al final del viaje se separaron, así que nunca pensé en volver a verla el último viaje me ascendieron y el nuevo barco aún no estaba botado, así que esperar un par de meses con mi gente en kent y sabes dónde estaba, pero me quedé lejos, entonces conocí a teresa wright un día me contó todo sobre ella sobre el matrimonio sobre la crueldad ebria del hombre sobre todo lo que sabes este noble baronet quemó a su perro mascota y amenazó tanto a ella le digo, caballeros, casi me volvió loco Yo no conocer a mary y yo la encontré de nuevo al final se encontraría con mi no hay más de lo que se ha indicado que el permiso en mi viaje de una semana a pesar del peligro que llama sobre ella esa noche para despedirse, pero su tierno adiós fue interrumpido por la llegada de sir eustis que se precipitó como un loco a la habitación gritando obscenidades y dejando a Mary inconsciente de un solo golpe se produjo una confrontación que terminó con un aterrizaje de crocker. un solo golpe con un atizador de chimenea un golpe que acabó con la vida de sir eustis para revivir a mary y calmar sus nervios abrió temblorosamente la botella de oporto y se sirvió dos vasos junto con teresa wright inventaron una cola para engañar a la policía impenitente el capitán mira a holmes por su reacción teresa fue tan fría como el hielo era su complot tanto como el mío debemos hacer que parezca que los ladrones han hecho lo mismo teresa seguía repitiendo nuestra historia a su señora mientras yo entré y corté la cuerda de la campana i luego la ató en su silla, deshilachado el extremo de la cuerda para que parezca natural, la plata, ¿sabrás que hago y el tercer vaso de cerdo para atar con los randalls? sí y dejamos caer el candelabro por donde cayó María. porque la cera salpicaría nunca pensé que la policía podría haber visto a través de nuestra evasión cuando supe que el demonio salvaje estaba muerto y ella estaba libre de él, creo que había hecho el mejor trabajo nocturno de mi vida. swing para eso que es t él la verdad toda la verdad señor sí sí me ha dicho la verdad y si las damas le hicieron una abstinencia interminable y hubieran aceptado su vaso de cerdo, su ingenio podría haberme engañado como ciertamente engañó a la policía . En la tierra, ¿me encontraste? Nadie podría haber perseguido esa cuerda de campana a un acróbata de un marinero. Nadie más que un marinero podría haber hecho los nudos con los que se ataba la causa a la silla. Era evidente que la dama estaba protegiendo a alguien para hacerlo en tales circunstancias significaba que debía amar. No fue un salto de la imaginación demasiado descabellado conectarla con un oficial del barco que la trajo a este país. vajilla usted está esperando un visitante. watson le concede la entrada a otra dama invitada brackenstall crocker y mary abrazan y ponen su destino en manos de sherlock holmes nuestro intrépido capitán crocker fue retratado aquí por el actor suizo oliver tobias nacido oliver tobias tretog en 1947 tobias llegó al reino unido en el ag e de 8 e inmediatamente comenzó su formación actoral en la escuela de actuación East 15 en londres a la edad de 22 años protagonizó la dirección y coreografía de la ópera rock hair en londres amsterdam y tel aviv su primer papel en un largometraje llegó en 1971 con el romance de un ladrón de caballos en la que coprotagonizó con ewell brenner serge winsberg y eli wallach desde allí, su carrera como actor en la pantalla nunca se ralentizó e incluye docenas de papeles en largometrajes y en televisión, incluido el papel principal en arthur of the britons en 1972 y luego nuevamente interpretando el gobernante de camelot en king arthur the young warlord en 1975.también dirigió el elenco en la serie de 1976 luke's army donde fue dirigido por peter weir tobias también apareció como el diablo en el video musical de ultra boxes 1982 golpeó el single él también actuó junto a la serie de granada mycroft mr charles gray en la película de ciencia ficción de micro presupuesto de 1991 firestar first contact, que se destaca por ser filmada en gran parte en una arena pública de etiquetas láser debido a su falta de presupuesto mor Recientemente apareció en la secuela de conjuro El libro de los muertos y en muchos más proyectos de cine y televisión suizos Oliver Tobias vive actualmente en el país donde está trabajando en una autobiografía reveladora a la edad de 73 años. un asunto muy serio, pero estoy seguro de que, sobre la base de la historia que nos ha contado aquí esta noche, un tribunal de justicia británico entenderá que actuó en defensa de su propia vida; sin embargo, es el jurado quien debe decidir mientras tanto. mucha simpatía para ti que si eliges desaparecer dentro de las próximas 24 horas te prometo que nadie te obstaculizará entonces todo saldrá tristemente saldrá que tipo de propuesta es que mary se quede para enfrentar la música sostenida como cómplice tal vez no Surrey no hará conector debe ir i no vendrá a ti mismo Capitán i sólo le estaba poniendo a prueba Watson este compañero suena a verdad cada vez que se trata de una gran responsabilidad que tomo a mí mismo, sino que lo hará en debida forma de Crocker ley le son los pr isoner watson usted es un jurado británico y nunca conocí a ningún hombre más eminentemente apto para representar a un hombre ahora gentil usted ha escuchado la evidencia encuentra al prisionero culpable o no culpable o no culpable fox popular vox se atreve a ser absuelto capitán crocker no no señor no va a hacer el capitán, ¿y si la policía detener a otro pobre diablo lo que entonces entonces voy a utilizar todos mis poderes para convencerlos de su error si se enciende en nosotros, entonces esa es otra cuestión, sin embargo, creo que es poco probable volver a este dama dentro de un año y que su futuro y el tuyo nos justifiquen el juicio de que hemos pronunciado esta cosa superada por la alegría mary lanza sus brazos alrededor del gran detective colmándolo de gratitud jeremy brett siempre esforzándose por perfeccionar su interpretación del personaje icónico que se encontró. luchando con esta secuencia cargada de emociones a stephen doyle de la reseña de sherlock holmes recordó que hay un momento en que la chica se arroja a los brazos de holmes y yo le dije a p eter hammond no sé cómo reaccionar ante esto, sé lo que haría, pero no sé qué haría holmes, dijo, bueno, hazlo , fue un momento extraordinario cuando uno de repente ve a este hombre completamente envuelto por esto absolutamente hermosa chica y cómo va a reaccionar ante eso fue todo terreno virgen para mí después de despedirme de la feliz pareja y el incierto Dr. Watson se sienta a fumar con su amigo es casi como si desaprobaras la felicidad que hemos fomentado este día oh no lo apruebo de eso, por supuesto que sí, me incomoda que hayas asumido los deberes de abogado y juez, estás demasiado limitado por las formas, las formas, la sociedad, los hogares, los modales, hacen las alcantarillas , es mejor que seas único. 6 de agosto de 1986 a las 9:00 p. 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Dramatizado por trevor bowen y dirigido por peter hammond hemos conocido a trevor bowen antes en la escuela del priorato y lo veremos varias veces más en el perro de los baskerville el soltero elegible el moribundo detective y más, pero Abbey Grange marca el debut de la serie para un director único, así que tomemos un momento para conocer al enigmático Peter Hammond nacido en Sheffield el 15 de noviembre de 1923 Hammond comenzó su carrera en el mundo del espectáculo como artista escénico en el Sheffield Repertory Theatre inspirado en su padre, que era restaurador de cuadros y pintor de acuarelas, sin embargo, para ganarse la vida mejor, Hammond se dedicó a la actuación y su debut en el West End se produjo en 1943 cuando apareció en junior miss una comedia estadounidense que se presentó en el Sevilla. con apariencia descrita como una reminiscencia de un joven jimmy stewart hammond hizo su debut en la pantalla en waterloo road en 1945 y pasó a interpretar al chico de al lado en muchas películas de los años 40 y 50, más notablemente en la popular serie de comedia huggits hammond también protagonizó tales las primeras series de televisión como los bucaneros y las aventuras de william tell, pero en 1959 decidió que era hora de un cambio y se inscribió en la bbc como aprendiz. director productor la década de 1960 traería sus primeros créditos como director de muchos programas, incluido el teatro con sillón de los vengadores, una adaptación en 12 partes del conde de monte cristo y el cereal de la bbc de 1966 , los tres mosqueteros, protagonizada por un joven jeremy brett en el papel de d 'artagnan hammond se estableció rápidamente como un trabajador rápido que aún logró darle estilo a sus proyectos y desarrolló un estilo característico en el que los confines de los pequeños espacios de estudio se animarían mediante el uso de distorsiones y reflejos disparados a través del vidrio o atrapados en el reflejo de los espejos y en 1965 ganó un bafta de director por su trabajo tanto en los vengadores como en una obra de televisión totalmente improvisada llamada ambrose, protagonizada por donald pleasance y elizabeth begley hammond se sintió tentada pero resistió la llamada de hollywood que a él le parecía más sobre obteniendo ganancias que haciendo películas y solo se aventuró en largometrajes una vez que dirigió la película británica de 1970 Spring and Oporto Sta. rring james mason, pero en los 80 y 90 continuó trabajando diligentemente en televisión en programas como bbc2 playhouse tales de lo inesperado y sombras de la oscuridad, la serie granada producida por june windham davies, así que cuando davies asumió el cargo de productor de la serie granada sherlock home y quería individuos altamente creativos laboriosos talento en la silla del director la primera llamada fue a Peter Hammond que volvería de nuevo para el signo de los cuatro pabellón Wisteria los tres frontones y más obligado a retirarse debido a problemas de salud a mediados de los años 90 Peter Hammond se dedicó a pintar y cuidar de su esposa Hammond a menudo se refería humildemente a sí mismo como un truco más de televisión, pero su amigo y colaborador frecuente, el compositor Paul Lewis, dijo que esto del hombre su trabajo siempre fue visualmente brillante era un poeta visual era un hombre privado extrañamente contrario a la imagen de bonami gregario que dio mientras trabajaba y eso es porque cobró vida cuando trabajaba peter hammond murió octo bre 12 de 2011 a la edad de 87 años y con la cabeza de que le permiten a los sillones, donde Lucas nos espera para una discusión de este Sherlock clásica historia de Holmes se impacienta con los degenerados crimen fama que es su demanda por lo que ocupa muy poco dispuestos a matar señor de eustis y el down under source de su dama, un curioso rito de isaac asimov que alude a algunas minucias de la historia más que a cualquier otra cosa, pero trae una conexión interesante con el programa que está en la historia que lady brackenstall se crió en el sur de australia y en el programa creo que se insinúa que su padre la envió allí en un viaje, no estoy seguro, pero en realidad eligieron a una actriz australiana para interpretarla, sí, y ya sabes si su acento australiano sangra a pesar de todo, realmente no puedo con autoridad digo, pero ann louise lambert ciertamente era australiana por nacionalidad, así que una especie de elección genial, pensé que sí, no obtuve mucho de australiano de ella, pero está bien, sí, bueno, definitivamente hizo un buen briti Tiene acento pero ella es australiana, bueno, quiero sumergirme, pero para que la gente sepa un pequeño adelanto, tenemos algo muy especial que compartir cuando lleguemos a la parte del programa de telegramas para el oyente. No voy a revelarlo todavía, lo estamos guardando. hasta entonces, pero tenemos una pequeña sorpresa para más tarde, así que estad atentos, bueno, vamos a sumergirnos en la primera nota bastante obvia una vez más, la música de introducción, sí, una pequeña variación en la grabación aquí, me refiero a que el final de la cola es muy diferente. justo en la primera señal, sí, quiero decir, cada vez que escucho una de estas pequeñas variantes, quiero decir, las escucho, lo sabes en los auriculares, así que a veces es difícil saberlo, pero todavía creo que volvieron a grabar la introducción, sí, tú know perhaps not every time but often at least because there's very subtle differences in the performances of the violins here and there you know i don't know maybe i'm crazy no i feel the same way too but i haven't actually put them all side by side but it is weird bec ause why would you do that maybe they were throwing patrick hours of bone and giving him a little extra work on each episode or something i mean other than you know recycling his music over and over again and maybe not getting paid for it i don't know but those differences do present themselves in the headphones which i'm assuming most of our listeners are listening in the headphones which is why we always specifically include them you know the specific theme music for each episode at the start of each podcast so you can decide for yourself we do start right in on this episode like we're immediately dropped into what feels like a heist film or something it's like yeah this long carriage scene the establishing shots of the house and the grounds you know rushing through the hallways and then this quick succession of shots of the murder scene yeah and quite quickly we are treated to the very first peter hammond mirror shot of the series yep we can call it reflection number one because i'm going to be listing them as we go through and for those who didn't catch it it's the moment when hopkins and the police pass by a bureau filled with pink glass bobbles or something i don't know on their on their way to see serious it's really nice especially in hd all that reflecting illuminated glass it's very colorful i like the shot a lot are you gonna also list anytime we shoot through glass you know we'll see ii have some notes about that but i tried to just focus on the reflections this time yeah well ii didn't make multiple notes i just wrote in mirror shots you know you're in a peter hammond episode right exactly we'll talk about this later but you know i don't feel like this is an egregious example of peter hammond's use of reflections i feel like it works really well um but when you start paying attention you start to realize they're they are there more than you might notice yeah at first but that's not the only thing that you start to realize is present in this episode whic h we'll come to but um the wide shot of holmes getting watson out of bed actually a pretty close recreation to the pageant illustration i thought which was kind of great to see yeah you know this was the first one they shot of the return so maybe they hadn't quite cast off the old way yet but i feel like they were kind of recreating the the pagets in this one a little bit yeah i thought that was great and it's also you know the game is a foot yeah maybe the most quotable identifiable lines from the whole series yeah right exactly so question for you did you notice when they're on the train and watson is kind of behind the letter holmes is holding up for the screen to read and watson is back there and he's getting out his notepad and pencil and it looks like he runs the pencil along his lips at one point did you see that ii don't remember if i saw that in this one but i think i've seen him do that before in different ones or maybe maybe it's just a habit maybe he was going for like a wa tson uh you know ism yeah something where he would run the pen or pencil over his lips to kind of get ready to write or something i mean well i mean running it through your lips i guess is one thing but um the way those pencils work is you twist the top and it propels the lead out so i mean it's possible he was checking the length of the lead i don't know it's weird he just runs it over his lips it's it's a strange choice but i like this train sequence a lot especially the backgrounds they somehow they managed to light this in such a way that you know it's not blown out we're seeing all these really nice green rolling hills passing by and i don't know it's a really really nice sequence i really like it yeah you know it also cuts to like maybe one of the strangest shots slash dissolves in the series that first class image right well i like to call that reflection number two it's just weird because like it's it's a reflection but it's also like a dissolve like a film dissolved from two s hots yeah and i just actually what i was wondering is was this a reference to another movie that i didn't pick up on yeah ii have like a confusion about this sequence too and he says i think him murdered watson and then first class is flipped backwards and if you look really closely you can't see two iterations of holmes face in that reflection you know what i mean like so ii have a feeling peter hammond was like we're going through a tunnel let's just grab this you know it's going to be great we're going to throw it in there somewhere it's going to look great it's a reflection that's that that could be yeah because because it gets dark in that sequence yeah so i feel like that that cross fade dissolve thing you're describing is is kind of their way of going we went through a tunnel right here it went dark we cut to this shot and now we're coming out of the tunnel ii don't know it's it's weird i think that's a good explanation i think that's as good as anything like i said unless it wa s a reference to a movie it adds emphasis to that line he says but it's just such a strange thing it's also doubly strange because it's not actually a great shot it's fuzzy it's kind of soft it's too dark probably you know what i mean yeah i guess the why is just because it's peter hammond you know sure well i mean it adds something because you go what happened there yeah but i'm with you like i don't i feel like there's something we're missing like maybe maybe there's a miss an homage to something but uh yeah so then we arrive at the house and we have this sequence where the horse the carriage is approaching the house i find these choices very interesting because we see we see homes notice the log which is great and then we get a few more shots of the carriage approaching kind of from the driver pov as it goes up and really it's quite a few seconds i mean these shots it's like seven shots of approaching the house and it's all beautiful it all looks great but we're certainly taking our time you know in getting there which which um it just seems like a strange use of the time speaking of the house uh we are back at the location from the speckled band for this house right yeah which is kind of cool to see and it's also not under construction anymore yeah the house has a couple different houses um you know different parts of different houses but uh i also thought it was interesting that when later when we come back to the house and there's a wide shot of the exterior we hear the the way ah of the peacock again yeah which is again consistent with the sounds of the speckled man yeah well they use that sound a lot i i've never heard so many peacock calls as in this series yeah but moving on from here inspector hopkins makes an appearance he was played by paul williamson and you know he does a fine job hopkins the character does return later in the golden ponce nay but he is played by a different actor nigel planer which you know i mean it's it's a little unfortunate that we couldn't keep the continuity but again i think we all know by that point late in the series attention to continuity had begun to slip somewhat um or or perhaps the actor just wasn't available but you know who can say but yeah this inspector hopkins uh is good and it's his first appearance and um here he is yeah he's pretty good yeah well and then very quickly we are introduced to reflection number three at the 5 minute and 50 second mark uh holmes watson and inspector hopkins stood in front of a mirror with watson mainly seen in the glass also very colorful red candles red stained glass which is followed immediately by reflection number four the very next shot as they approach it's that same bright pink bureau of bobbles or whatever really colorful very nice but red seems to be the predominant color here this next scene with lady brackenstall sitting room i mean we got red furniture red plant coverings red flowers red window dressings red fireplace mantle runner red picture frame re d book on the table next to lady brackenstall of course her bruises are all red i mean later on we get the red bell ropes and the gag used on mary is red i mean some of it is obviously the house i mean the wallpaper in the halls is is pure red but one really kind of is forced to wonder how much of this is peter hammond i know i also wonder if it was supposed to like subconsciously be uh that the maid was manipulating the scene as well like putting all the red around her like she's you know surrounded by danger blood and that might be a stretch yeah well i mean it's interesting because it appears in almost every shot of this entire episode yeah normally when there's the use of a color like this a recurring color recurring theme it does represent like you said danger death blood something but it's like what does it represent in this episode i mean what can it represent when it's in every single shot i think it's just peter hammond being peter hammond yeah running with the theme it's poss ible yeah i don't think it'd be controversial to say this is the most romantic episode of the whole series oh yeah but it's also kind of the most melancholy and tragic in a way you know so i wonder if it was maybe red represents that yeah during uh lady brackenstall's explanation of sir eustis's drinking there's a shot of holmes just kind of clocking watson being sucked into the story right emotionally yeah and then we go back to homes and he's he looks like he's already dismissing her story in his mind he's a bit incredulous and it's like a good decision as an actor i think but then in the story he believes it yeah they they kind of leave and like well this is already solved but i don't know if that was meant to just sprinkle a little like yeah there's there's some doubt here you know what i took away from it was just that holmes is analyzing every word that's coming out of her mouth and it's so intense it's his performance is amazing but i just feel like what's happening is like ther e's some subconscious thing in his brain going something here doesn't add up yeah you know like i haven't i can't put my finger on it it's almost like he knows this is being done for effect and it's working on watson but he can't but you know there's no reason for her to lie so he's kind of you know it's not that he doesn't believe her it's just that something is amiss and he can't quite work it out yet yeah that's that's the feeling i got from that sequence but yeah it's quite something to look at well in this sequence we're in now in in the sitting room we get reflection number five and reflection number six uh which is you know holmes's face in the foreground lady brackenstall's face and a mirror in the background and then a few minutes later teresa wright is is by that same mirror so uh more mirrors being used uh already um again they don't feel terrible they don't feel mazer in stone um not terrible but over the top maybe mezer and stone right right exactly the next sequence when we get into uh you know the big room the dining room it also introduces us to something that is recurrent in this episode which is the difference between close-up sound and room sound yeah you know it seems like there's quite a few instances in this one where they just decided hey we're just going to mic this room and everybody's going to sound really far away and echoey and you know like we're in a big room well that might not have been a decision it might have been like we don't need radio mics on this we got the boom and then right it turns into a really super wide shot and then the sound guy's screwed basically right because you can't have this mic in the shot yeah it's hard to know if it is a choice or not i guess we'll never know really but yeah until you really pay attention to it it's it's not bothersome you know it's fine no uh i never really noticed it until this this viewing but as you watch this episode there's a lot of it there's a lot of that in this episode a lot of plac es where people just get quiet because there's no mic near them you know it's just far away sure so it's different it's interesting but we do get reflection number seven here which is at the 17 minute and 45 second mark holmes and watson and hopkins standing at the refreshment station which again looks maybe like there was some extra red added under the glasses i mean i know the wine is red there's like a little uh something under the glasses which is red and of course the cork itself on the bottle has red on it yeah it's just it never ends but uh and then technically we get we'll call it reflection number seven a because there's just another shot where holmes is holding up the glasses but he's looking into the mirror this time so quite a few i wonder what it was like explaining all these shots on the day yeah like so we're gonna get this shot like yeah we're gonna get that shot but i'm gonna shoot you through this mirror because it'll be cool ii gotta believe that june windham davies just said look peter's in charge do whatever he says that's how it went down well the next sequence is the train station which again we get a reflection we see holmes and watson waiting for the train but just their reflections as the glass is passing by of the arriving train again it doesn't put you out of the episode it's it's tastefully done and even more red in this sequence i mean it's just everywhere you look that that stop go signal that switches from green to red glass for the train i mean really nice really nice choice but another example of red and then we get reflection number nine when holmes is on the train there's literally a mirror in the train that he manages to shoot and tilt down from so we get a shot of him in a nice red train seat and then we get reflection number 10 at the 20-minute mark just before the commercial break when holmes taps his stick on the glass waking up watson and then behind him we even see more red in the form of an advertisement for camp coffee th ere's like you know one of those ads they have at the train station so i don't know i just feel like you know once you start paying attention to the red and the reflections this episode kind of becomes hard to watch you got to go into it not wanting to look at those things yeah which i was afraid that maybe i wouldn't be able to enjoy this episode once i started to see these things that i couldn't unsee but in fact you can yeah you definitely can yeah it's almost like too fortuitous how some of these things come together in the episode i mean at this train station which presumably was something like a real building and not a set that they built yeah the archways are red you know the parked train is red and then obviously you get the train man who you know holmes has his eye on him he's the guy who kind of gives him the clue that the next train is coming did you notice his necktie color red so it's like peter hammond went there's just red everywhere let's just go with this and put even more red in there i mean it's so like when holmes climbs down the ladder to get the gravestone of the pet dog the latter is red i mean obviously i think some of that is you know happenstance sure i do like that sequence when holmes is down there getting the stone and his hands he's he's using his hands and getting all dirty and rolling up his sleeves and they're getting all muddy yeah i wondered if uh ester dean the costume lady yeah would appreciate that scene or if she was sitting back going like god damn it dirty again you know yeah cause then he puts his hands behind his back and you can see that like underneath his jacket's dirty like he's just getting it everywhere yeah the moment when they're walking up there's this line that's like basically just off screen he says how many frustrating episodes for the laboring men here could one reconstruct from this mechanical cemetery yeah it's an interesting line makes you think maybe the writer was a repairman or a tinkerer or something in his spare time being sympathetic to the scene of those broken machines yeah i really like that line and i never noticed it you know until watching it with the subtitles on like you said is kind of out of earshot in a sense yeah yeah so i mean after that sequence they end up back in the room with the fireplace i would save this for the jeremy bits but it's just too good to not talk about obviously him scaling that fireplace i mean could anything be more perfect it's jeremy brett doing his own stunt for one thing i mean it's nothing too ridiculous but it certainly adds to the tenseness of it i mean he he could have fallen he could have slipped well like that he just kind of launches right into it too he just turns around and just jumps yeah just mid-sentence kind of thing and i mean again you know this is the first one of the return and he's obviously you know younger and in great shape and he's still doing those things and it's just so great it's just so great to see it yeah there is a um gaff here yeah and what it looks like is there's possibly a telephone wire up on top of the mantelpiece that's run you know running behind jeremy actually when you're looking at him up there yeah but i wondered if that was actually just the copper that connects to the bell rope kind of running through a more like modernized clear tube i mean it's secured with like very modern yeah plastic uh nail in clips so i wondered if maybe you know the cameraman was setting up a shot and he was up high like that yeah and maybe the shot should have just been a little bit lower but maybe it just felt right you know you just unless you're gonna cover it with a rug or something i don't know what you would have done i mean i think they could have covered it i think honestly that's an instance where you know peter hammond probably didn't want to get all the way up there yeah and the camera guy probably wasn't as you know didn't have the same eye for those kind of things and it was it was a very high shot and it probably just didn't have enough eyes on it we also don't know how it was how it was shot because if it was on a crane you know i don't know what monitoring was like back then so it could have been that you just couldn't see it on the screen it could have been as simple as they focused it on the ground and then put the camera up in the air and then yeah hope for the best i don't know exactly how it was back then you know it's a minor thing i mean i i've always noticed it but i didn't actually know what it was so i didn't really care yeah but when when michael cox pointed out in his book that it was modern electrical wiring and then it's like well okay you know that's unfortunate yeah but ii really think if the white clips weren't there yeah i don't know i feel like it would have played better just just because you can see the copper coming off the rope pole it's not unbelievable to think that that those two things could be connected but the white clips kind of do it but i think given the choice ii feel like if they would have even known of it they probably would have just put a piece of molding over it yeah or just brought the camera down yeah yeah exactly so it's it's just a little flub but it's it's not a huge thing in that same scene when they're sitting at the table you can clearly see watson's watch chain with the coin with the square hole in it and it reminded me of that annotation from the redheaded league about the coin whether it's a square hold coin or a coin with a square hole right it's one of those things but it's it's on his chain there so yes they answered it that way exactly the next sequence which uh is outside with the fountain i thought the framing of this scene was really great you get the first shot which is wide through the archway so it's kind of framed up really nice and then the very next shot also great but it's low and you've got holmes and mary together at the bottom of the frame teresa and watson at the top it's definitely a masterfully framed shot i'm tempted to call the reflection at the 27 minute mark another reflection because you can kind of see holmes and the reflection of the fountain but yeah it's not an amazing reflection shot so we won't count it in the tally but i'm sure it was going through peter hammond's mind i mean come on this is peter hammond no reflection shall go to waste but maybe you'll have to verify this one for me it was something i forgot to go back and check but i wondered if this was a recurring thing as well um where sherlock is pointing at the polish brass sign outside the office for the southern cross line yeah i seem to remember he did this in the redheaded league as well when they went to the bank and that we see him pointing like he's directing watson like here we are this is the location you know and and it's like he's almost reading it in the in the reflection but but there's no dialogue there you know it is interesting that he points it out but it's also yeah you're rig ht there is that reflection in that shot also did you notice little red stars on that sign well i guess i didn't notice that peter hammond is directing you got to imagine he goes okay we need a sign for this thing first of all we need to be able to shoot a reflection in it and also we need some red we got to make sure both those things are are taken care of in this sign people it's possible there is a quick shot of holmes pointing at something with his walking stick in the shot immediately after it like it it's a little bit more of a wide shot they're going through the columns and he's kind of pointing at something as they're entering the building for the southern cross it's i don't know it's really brief but it's it's also really weird it's like he's pointing at someone on the crew or something and then they cut in it's really weird i feel like jeremy brett just does that from time to time he just uh finds something to point out with his stick though i have to say we did pass in going that far ahead we did pass a few reflections we had reflection number 12 as holmes taps the driver with his stick and they're leaving abby grange they pass in front of a mirror that's at the entrance and we also have reflection number 13 which is when lady brackenstall is watching them depart and we see the reflection of the carriage passing her face in the glass yeah so we get both of those reflections those kind of things are not incidental right you know you've got to get the camera right and you've got to get the position right so it's those were set up and once we arrive at the southern cross line offices there's no shortage of red in this sequence we have a red shipping manifest book red chess pieces red stained glass the attendant mr viviani is wearing a red vest yeah i mean i feel like i should just stop because i mean anyway yeah and we also of course get the wonderful reflection number 14 at the 32 minute mark of holmes watson and viviani in the reflection of that uh ship mo del case that's a really long segment yeah just in reflection and it's not it's not the best reflection either it's not totally clear so it's a very odd choice i thought just just for how long it is i will say in that particular reflection i thought that jeremy brett looked so much like the pageant illustration yeah sherlock holmes that that it's kind of neat i did and did enjoy that for some reason he just he just looks maybe this distortion in the glass or something but he looks like the patch at homes in in that shot to me ii like when holmes asks where the rocker gibraltar ship is currently at and the clerk goes to point to it at a map and holmes just starts playing with the globe not even looking yeah yeah just another definitely jeremy thing he can hear him it's fine yeah i do like the moment where mr viviani says you know only through the study of the good doctor's masterly exposition of your work that i now have any small capacity to reason and watson looks quite pleased yeah h olmes notices and he says what so are you taking notes yeah just to knock them back down a peg there's nice little moments and the smile from mrs burbidge on her way out the door it's like well and this whole sequence is a concoction of trevor bowen because it's not in the story this way at all these characters don't exist in the story so right it's definitely very very nicely done but once they get back to baker street when crocker arrives not that this is even a note about being red it just so happens to be red but when crocker comes in the camera is fairly high so we're kind of looking down and you get a very good view which you rarely get of the floor and the rug in baker street which is right does have a lot of red in it but you just get a nice look at it which is kind of cool yeah add some texture to baker street bite on that captain croaker that's a great line there's some really interesting stuff in this baker street sequence if you look out the windows it seems to be a real pe a super out there i mean it's it's but if you look really closely on some of the later shots it looks like they just basically have set some diffuser fabric up yeah and it's frankly like it's right next to the bricks that are outside so you can you can kind of see it it just kind of creates aa wall of light brown which i'm assuming they were kind of guessing would play well as fog and it does yeah but if you if you really look closely at it you can tell it's not fog it's just yeah a scrim maybe the sun came out and it was just too direct and then like we got to soften that you know make it look something like what it was supposed to be so this is a dumb note but when captain croaker takes his first drag on the cigar there's an unintended sound effect that accompanies the movement of his cigar really it's like a it's like a squeaky door noise he's like oh right it's like right as he pulls a cigar out of his mouth just kind of a little comedy moment yes and a very nerdy tool reference he re the multiplex knife that he pulls out of his pocket which i always expect to be red because of the swiss army knife is black in this situation which may be telling also yeah but it has a phillips head screwdriver on it which i had to google but it wasn't invented until the 1930s are you sure pretty sure because there is a whole segment in the um bearing gould i think or maybe it's the klinger book about swiss army knives and how they uh they did include a screwdriver so they could disassemble their guns but maybe it was a flathead screwdriver they had flatheads yep or slotted they call them okay yeah because i had to do a bunch of research for about screws at one point oh interesting well that's interesting to know yeah i didn't actually i didn't actually notice you could see that it was a phillips it turns it really quickly but it's like when you know what you're looking for you're like that's because the flat head is usually like pretty flat and wide and it's in the other side whe n it's like back with this corkscrew it's usually the phillips head interesting well this sequence here when they start flashing back to crocker's story i have to admit there's a shot in this that i've always really loved and it's the one that is the night after the party and all the chairs are empty and the streamers are scattered everywhere and crocker is just so lonely and he walks through and he's saying his line about how he'll never be a free man again i don't know why but that shot is always struck with me yeah i think it's because it's just like a static shot the camera doesn't move but you know there's so much color in it and so many things set up in it and he walks through and he kicks the ground and you know does his i just enjoy it every time every time it's on i enjoy that moment it's just so nice yeah the music is nice his dialogue is nice everything's good it's a nice moment for the actor i did make a note on this moment but i put that the quote boat party location it di d seem a little bit like they just stuck life preservers on a wall right to sell the idea of a ship yeah like it was a boat themed restaurant almost you know because it was definitely not a boat it wasn't moving yeah but like i thought like if you took away the life preservers would you know you were on a boat that's true it's true but i think i think it works i mean they could have they could have rocked the camera and added in some wave sounds or something but uh yeah no it's fine no no that's fine when crocker is when he sits down to talk about his meeting with mary and how he's meeting her again and again if you watch jeremy and he's on the right side of frame he hardly blinks he hardly moves it's like he knows that this is not his scene yeah and he's letting this other actor have his moment and it's just it's just nice it's just it's really nice to watch jeremy give him his moment you know and again it's just one of those little things on repeated views this show rewards i mean i think you have to say that oliver tobias's performance of kroger was was pretty great you know noble yet forlorn yeah and i wonder if jeremy was like this guy's killing it i'm just gonna sit back yeah literally and watch yeah absolutely i mean and you know there's that moment where he gets in his face and says if you lie to me i'll crush you but you know it's just that he's such a imposing yeah he's such an imposing character he's like his voice is so deep and he's so big yeah you know that interchange there when holmes looks a little worried for a second it's really great i mean it's really great i also it also felt like another weird sort of call back to the speckled band and other ones you know where holmes doesn't back down from physical threats yeah definitely i do think we need to point out the amazing piece of music during crocker's dialogue here it's really romantic yet yeah melancholy and tragic it's like it's just it's perfectly fits this episode yeah it's it's the abbey gran ge theme it is and and that theme takes us into his flashbacks uh which i never really noticed until my very last viewing but this entire flashback between mary and crocker when they say goodbye yeah it's again all one take no cuts and it's just i mean it's amazing i mean the acting even the camera when they when they move it's not just one stationary shot they move across the room right to the fireplace and it's still it's it's just one camera move it's one take but but even all that aside i just think the drama is just so stellar i mean the writing the acting everything it just it literally chokes me up no matter how many times i see it it's it's i think it's exactly what you said it's it's the most romantic moment yeah in the entire granada series i would say but it also feels like a romance movie like it feels like a different kind of show especially in that moment when she's like she keeps turning around but going towards the other side of the room and yeah you just get these diff erent views of her and you know the friend will do mary there's a measure of my love for you that's so strong it'll live on crumbs friend will do it's like yeah it's just the whole thing is pretty heartbreaking but you know it it's like that line could have been read badly and been over the top cheesy yeah but the performances they're just they fit in this show perfectly you know what i mean like it's it's not a romantic period drama it's not a melodrama of that kind and yet it again it could have gone the wrong way it could have gone over the top and these two performers just nail it so brilliantly yeah it's so subtle that's i think that's why i personally like it because i wouldn't like it if it were too over the top but because it's so subtle it really hits home for me yeah it's very measured and i think you know stephen fry reads croaker with an australian accent but it's quite different to the show and when you hear them back to back as i did when i was researching the episode i t hink again it's another testament to the show runners and to the actors of the series to to pull what they did from the original stories and to change it to fit yeah because i think it also kind of illustrates how one person's interpretation of the same text can be different to someone else's yeah and i wonder if this is possibly an explanation to why some people don't like the episodes that are too similar to the original text because maybe the image in their head is so burned in that when you see the same dialogue coming out differently it yeah you know it feels weird but whereas an episode of the show that's a bit looser with the story feels like more of an homage rather than a straight like cover song kind of a thing yeah yeah possibly but crocker in this scene and all the all of his scenes they're so different to stephen fry's performance that you could have a totally different show if it was a different actor that's interesting ii actually didn't i haven't listened to this even p ry rendition of this one i'll have to check that out now you should yeah he does all the australian accents yeah it's fun but speaking of performances i have to say the actor who played sir eustis conrad phillips for a brief little performance i think it's entirely fantastic ii thought i mean i didn't do a bio on mr phillips just because you know his part is so small and yeah but i mean he's a pretty prolific actor he has like 111 imdb credits to his name and most of those are tv appearances for which he had multiple appearances so it's you know it's quite a few more than that yeah and i mean he was in like the avengers the prisoner faulty towers but it's like you know he's one of those actors that tends to fade into the background like i've seen all those shows and i don't even remember him in them yeah so i gotta go back and look for him again but i just feel like he was great in this i mean he was really great i really liked him ii just thought again he could have gone too far but h e didn't he just kept it exactly right so i thought it was great i love that shot of him stumbling in and appearing in front of his own painting i do like that but i almost have a bad note because you can't really say that it looks exactly like it i mean i mean obviously it's him when he's younger or or something but it's like i mean the fact that the p that that painting is huge i mean that must be 10 feet tall you know minimum that thing is huge so it's a great prop and it's a great thing that they did but is it the same actor it's hard to know i don't know i think the thing that sells it though is the hair coloring like the little smattering of gray yeah he's got gray on both sides and this in the painting the same way yeah yeah and it's like okay that's him yeah that part that part was good i did think that this was maybe some of the best fight choreography in the series yeah and i know that might be controversial to say it's not 100 perfect or anything uh there's a lot of swinging you know but the swinging of sir eustace's blackthorne cudgel i thought were pretty believable yeah and the way that croakers like blocking them it's it's it's the camera work though it's like we're tight in yeah and we're handheld and it feels like you're in a fight and then when it cuts out to them kind of like flopping on the table yeah and it's just a wide static shot like there's there's no there's no action it doesn't feel like as much action but your comments almost verbatim reflect mine i mean i had this down as a good note but i put sorta next to it's like it starts off really good like those blows that uh eustis is is getting on crocker it looks like he's getting hurt you know that that looks brutal that's a good stuff but then it just loses momentum you know when they start climbing on the table and slipping and he's swinging in the air yeah it kind of loses it but it ends well yeah overall quite quite good i mean it could have been bad it wasn't bad it was typical of the s how i thought but then the beginning of it was better right exactly and then the end of it's nice because we're in a close-up and it's kind of dramatic because we're like watching them you know size each other up and he just smacks them and it's like yeah crazy sound effect and i like that he basically kills a guy you know and his brains all over the floor and he just sets the murder weapon on his chest and walks away yeah and there's more red in this scene the close-up of sir eustis's eyeball yeah definitely i thought this was a much better use of a practical effect than the wax brains on the floor yeah i wonder what they put in his eye because it's just it's just like open your eye we're just gonna squirt some stuff in there and we'll get a quick shot i thought it was pretty effective it was effective he's clearly i mean he obviously is freshly dead so any twitching is still uh forgivable yeah but he definitely was having a hard time kind of keeping his eye with that stuff in there w ell i think that's believable you understand yeah and we'll come back to the blood on the rug when we get to the bad okay there is a line here that teresa has when crocker pours the wine and you know in the story the excuse for why we had to pour wine into three glasses is because theresa didn't want any she didn't drink the wine right but what's funny is there is a line there to clarify that but you i mean you really ii never picked up on it until i turned the subtitles on my very last viewing where she says thank you no captain yeah yeah yeah no it's kind of like a throwaway yeah it doesn't really look like he's even offering her the drink no i know i think it was maybe some bad direction on that one yeah but but it but it is there yeah i did think this was one for a friend of the podcast peter sokolowski from miriam webster because he says in the story he says if the ladies made had been less abstemious right and accepted your glass of port your ingenuity might have fooled me yes ye s abstemious meaning not self-indulgent especially when eating and drinking yeah that's definitely one for the dictionary guy but ii just thought it was you know again it it because those glasses are technically a major part of the mystery yeah it's kind of odd that it would be such a throwaway thing i mean again like you said he does say that line at the end but again unless you got your dictionary out are you even going to catch right what is what what's being said there if you haven't read the story before ii don't know again it's one of those things where if you've read the story and you know what's supposed to be happening all the pieces are there but um you know similar to um the priory school it's like the pieces are all there but unless you're really listening really paying attention have the subtitles on and are willing to put the pieces together for yourself uh it's not totally clear all the time which is yeah maybe my only real knock against this episode uh is is that but as we are now back on baker street we can mention the final reflections number 15 through 17 which are just a few quick shots of watson in the mirror as he goes to open the door for lady brackenstall and uh when they exit they go back through the mirror again we've got something like 17 reflections in this episode and lady brackenstall is wearing one of the most memorable images of the whole series maybe her all-black outfit with a red tie necker chief or something yeah it's very punk rock oh definitely yeah but you'll also be pleased to know that's not the actual final bit of red it's almost like peter hammond went okay everybody i'm gonna knock him over the head with red one last time and you guessed it it's in a mirror and it's over jeremy's shoulder when basically he gets the hug and you know they're they're all leaving out the door and it's like they just put a big piece of red yeah in the in the mirror and they just reflect on it in the mirror it's just like a big red circle oval w ell maybe maybe it was just mary's color and so she's filled up the room now even even the reflections are red that's how much impact she has perhaps perhaps there is a great line here where holmes says gentle man of the jury yeah it's it's not in this story that way in the story he says gentlemen so this it is a really nice touch i don't know if it's jeremy or the writer here right but there is actually a quote out there uh of jeremy's where he says both watson and ted are gentle men as well as being gentlemen so maybe it was jeremy i don't know not sure either way a very nice touch yeah there was another nice little thing i thought in this scene when kroker is describing that he deliberately dropped the candlestick so that the wax was splashed near the window yeah and holmes looks elated like he's really impressed by crocker here yeah it's just it's in the background but it's just this nice little acting moment from from jeremy subtle but nice yeah absolutely and the the discussion a t the end of the episode between holmes and watson discussing forms and forms of society and manners maketh men and then he says it's just as well that you're unique and then we cut to this like extreme close-up on both of them yeah but because they're both drinking port they had to bring the glasses like all the way up into their face it's a little weird yeah but uh similarly edward hardwick was doing that with his cigarette you know multiple times in this episode just kind of holding it by his face because otherwise you wouldn't see it yeah but it you know it looks good in the close that's all that matters and then of course the latin vox populi vox dei is uh latin for the voice of the people is the voice of god so um that's what that comes from let's talk about the books for a moment yeah the abby grange was first published in the strand magazine in september 1904 and in collier's on december 31st 1904 you mentioned the game as a foot and you know you're right it's like famously att ributed to holmes but actually holmes is quoting shakespeare right uh because this line comes from the first part of henry iv and also again in henry v though he says the game's afoot with an apostrophe and holmes does not use the contraction also noteworthy in spite of being a famous line for holmes he does only say it once and that's here in the abbey grange watson however does say it in wisteria lodge but um les klinger points out in his annotated book that at least it was uttered by holmes once which makes it more respectable than the meme of uh elementary my dear watson which he never actually said so that's cool well it's like when people say to me luke i am your father it's like that's not a quote from the movie man yeah good point so the first note i made about the story was you know when he says we were moving in high life watson crackling paper eb monogram coat of arms picturesque address i started looking up crackling paper because i thought maybe it was a certain kind of pa per but i think really all it means was that it was nice paper because it actually you could crackle it whereas like paper of the day was like pulpy and thick and soft yeah so i assume that's what they meant but ii started looking up i was trying to find anything about like vintage paper you know being called crackling paper and i found this article that was about in quotes paper men and the habits of paper men and like people that work with paper that they'll chew on paper and then they like to crackle paper and it's just really weird article but nothing specifically about this other than it probably was due to it being crisp it's like a stiffer which was expensive at the time yeah yeah interesting in that train ride holmes mentions what he plans to do in his declining years but as it turns out he only wrote two of the stories blanched soldier and lion's mane were two from the canon that were not written by watson but written by holmes right but uh he would have been 72 years old when he wrote those stories in 1926 which is when they were placed if you have access to the stephen fry audiobooks you should definitely listen to this episode his australian accent for lady brackenstall and the maid were pretty great but there's also a few lines that i noticed were changed and i just don't know if it's just because of the version i had you know i'm reading the bearing gold but there were certain just little things that got changed in the version i have it says heaven will not let such wickedness endure and when stephen fry reads it was changed to god yeah well we've talked about this a little bit before and i don't remember which episode it was but the fact that sometimes the american edition versus the original british had replaced words like god yeah for example but leslie klinger actually made a note about this and he speculates that such changes would have been made between the different editions to kind of coarsen the dialogue for less refined readers in the us so f or example that's that's his excuse for why they changed god to heaven and like they changed devil to fiend and they changed damn to curse but see i think the opposite actually ii think like removing damn and god seems like exactly what you'd expect from a puritanical american sensor at the time yeah i mean yeah there's there's a lot of changes there's a lot of notes about the changes in the annotated books but uh it's interesting to see how it evolved over time yeah we could talk about bee's wing for a moment yeah which in the series they say crusting right but in in the stories it's bee's wing and according to the klinger annotated book beeswing is a translucent flaky film found in older wines particularly those such as port that are bottle aged for many years and that typically port drinkers are very careful not to quote break the bee's wing by shaking the bottle so you know again it's just a little bit of a extra bit of data the bearing gould said the word may occasionally a trifle of difficulty among americans in the syllabic division because they thought we might say b swing yeah interesting well seeing as how we're talking about the books we can talk about the pageant illustrations just for a moment there's one that i really like which is holmes on the train and he appears to be wearing a hamburg yep yeah is it a hamburger i mean it's kind of it's hard to tell in a drawing it's hard to tell in the drawing but it's the edges the brim is curled up yeah and the crown is pretty square you know so it's you know it's hard to draw hats yeah yeah but i'd say that that was a hamburg yeah definitely and he's wearing the brown hamburger in this one so it's nice yeah well i know we don't like to talk about the dates too much but uh martin dakin ii always get a kick out of his book he speculates that since this story was released a mere seven years after the events occurred and the only reason watson would do something like that you know revealing the details of the murde r and therefore implicating crocker or croaker would be because crocker and his bride must have met an untimely demise and if they were dead now there'd be no reason for watson not to spill the beans so that's a leap yeah well martin dakin you know i think he said something like maybe the ship that they were both on together sunk or something or they just went to australia yeah but it always he always makes me chuckle with his uh his theories i did want to talk a little bit about the fight scene from the story because there's a line that says uh he welted her across the face with the stick he had in his hand and that stick being his black thorn cudgel and had he hit her with that in the show had we seen that yeah i mean not only would it have been quite graphic um but the justification for coker killing him might have been too easy you know and that everybody would just be on his side yeah it kind of just looks like he backhands her but i mean that stick was it's like a baseball on the end of a baseball bat well he does backhand her but she also like spins around twice yeah so it's pretty hard below it's a hard blow but it didn't look like attempted murder it looked like a you know he hit her with the back of his hand had he hit it with a stick it's like well if anybody ever adapts it in the future maybe they'll take it to the next level we'll see yeah okay well let's talk about the good and the bad and the jeremy i mean i feel like we've said a lot of things already but yeah if there's any unaddressed bits you'd like to throw out there i don't know if i would say it's good or bad but it's it's kind of typical of their relationship you know holmes wakes up watson they get on the train and the first thing you know like watson says something benign you know he says that thought us out cause like they supposedly drank warm tea because they were just huddled in their coats according to the story the whole way out yeah basically holmes goes right into the thing of if you were looking at this from the point of view of a story instead of a scientific exercise you know um it's like comes really early in the journey whereas homes just kind of starts in on watson watson just kind of just boom why don't you write him yourself just kind of dismisses it but it's like well and again like ii almost would put that in the you know like it's hard to call it bad but it's it's you know this is edward hardwick's first episode and i kind of feel like he's a bit wooden a bit dry on this one which it's fine it's not bad i think he's drawing the story though i think a lot of the lines that he says are actually holmes is lying from the story it's true it's true but you'd think if like your best friend told you your stories were terrible you'd do something more than go why don't you write them yourself yeah maybe or maybe not maybe they're just that good of friends yeah but in terms of good notes i have to give one to trevor bowen because i feel like the writing in this ep isode is really quite great yeah i mean especially the scenes that aren't in the story i mean we talked about the southern cross line parts i love the part when crocker is confronting sir eustis i mean in the story he says sir eustis insults his wife with the vilest name a man can call a woman or something but he doesn't say what he says here we get some of that really colorful dialogue and i think it really works and after he hits her when he is taunting crocker and he's like yes sir come sir stand you there sir over the body of your dead i feel like that entire monologue is so great you know and it's it's it's invented by trevor beau and it's not conan doyle but it's it's great stuff it really is great it fits yeah yeah i really like it yeah speaking of the southern cross office i mean this could be jeremy this could be the show but there's this like high angle cam replacement on jeremy with the chessboard at the end of the scene yeah and then jeremy just puts his finger on the chess piece and just kind of hangs out there yeah again like i wondered was like was this another misreference or something but he's almost looking at camera at the beginning of it like bewildered and then he just turns away and puts his finger on the thing it's like it's a great little moment it's interesting that the the times when a director chooses to do a high angle yeah on someone like that you know it because it accentuates something but it's never easy to figure out what it's accentuating to me red in that particular instance it's the chessboard of course but yeah but it's also sometimes just done on the actor to make them feel smaller or make them feel yes and in the scene or something it's not something you see a lot of these days i have to say but it's neat yeah yeah i mean we've pretty much touched on all the other good points i had so moving into the bad i mean again there's so little bad if ii think the worst bad note i have is the foley sound when brackenstall hits his wife i t's like it's like a pretty bad stock sound sounds like a bag of potatoes being punched i just watched uh indiana jones though yeah you know yeah it's like if you haven't seen that in a while and you go and you watch indiana jones you're like oh yeah i forgot about the sound effects in this one yeah exactly but that's what it sounds like in this episode yeah that's what i thought of i thought of indiana jones yeah so it's just it's a it could have been a little more subtle but uh yeah it's fine right i mean really the only other bad notes i have are things we talked about the painting kind of not looking like him the the wires um i don't know that i have anything else really oh the wax oh yeah we gotta talk about the wax yeah probably most super fans have noticed this but i mean for those who haven't it appears as though they created some kind of hardened wax or plastic pool of blood yeah which they laid on top of the carpet which i assume is because the real carpet of that house was b eing used and they couldn't stain it right but i mean and that's fine it could have worked but sadly when sir eustis dies his head is like pushing up against the solid blood prop yeah and it kind of moves it and flops it a bit and it's just at the start of the shot but i mean it's not unforgivable and it's not terrible but even before hd i noticed this one yeah it it's just unfortunate it's just doubly unfortunate because it actually is kind of a cool blood splatter pattern they tried for well i wondered if it was that or if it was um in the story they talk about you know his brains are all over the floor yeah so i wondered if they were going for like a 3d like it wasn't blood it was like goopy brain stuff yeah maybe even if they were just trying to keep it off the rug like they could have just got a rug and put it under you know put it over the other rug yeah and then just bled all over that but who knows you never know with scheduling and yeah it's it's a little upsetting yeah that o ne sounds tough well we can talk about the jeremy i mean we already pretty much covered most of his great stuff but i mean some of it's worth revisiting i mean the hug with lady brackenstall i mean yeah i love it it's great i mean again it's it's another one of these single shots you know it's not super long or anything but he he exits the hug and he walks across the room and his reaction is kind of like i like the fact that his reaction is unbroken because it's almost like he's shocked like stunned yeah by this hug and startled yeah and then kind of on the verge of disgust yeah and he carries that over as he walks away like well i'm shell-shocked like i don't know what just happened yeah so i feel like they could have cut away but it was a great choice that they didn't so that was that was nice nice for jeremy yeah i think when they're outside holmes is writing the note for inspector hopkins and then he just shouts chisel her station and like the carriage just takes off and holmes is still on the complete other side and like edward harbeck even looks like he's genuinely worried that he's not gonna make it but jeremy just runs around he just hops in it's like i wonder i always wonder if those kind of things are planned or not but he seems you know at home with jumping on and off of carriages throughout the whole series so i wonder if it was yeah i do really like the final sequence when holmes and watson are just sitting around smoking and drinking and yeah holmes is smiling and giving his little humps and his little little laughs and you know it ends on a big smile from the two friends i mean it's an extreme close-up yeah but it is great and i like the fact there's no music i kind of wondered if there was no music because once again this entire sequence is shot on the boom mic from across the room so it's very quiet yeah you can barely hear the little things holmes is saying and doing same with the shots of crocker in there too yeah but then when you cut in on watso n in that last sequence and he has his final line he says it's just as well you are unique homes or whatever i mean it's 20 decibels louder yeah than the rest of the audio in that sequence so it you know it's not maybe not perfect but i really like it i really like that ending sequence yeah and it feels like one of the drawings yeah even if it isn't one it feels like it was one lots of great stuff time for a vote who who shall go first you go first all right well i don't know what the popular opinion is on this one i do tend to pull away from some of the later peter hammond episodes but this one i think is spot on ii never you know as much as i had to say about it in this review ii never really noticed all the red or the reflections until much much later so i can't i don't feel like it's heavy-handed i guess is what i'm trying to say yeah i love the performances i love the script i really love the romance aspect of it i love the way it all feels so genuine it does it gets my heart stri ngs i think jeremy is great edward a little wooden but it's his first one and there's nothing bad about his performance i think he was just still finding out who he was going to be obviously there's the wires there's a you know some technical flubs but any negatives i have about it they're just so minor i i'm honestly i'm tempted to give this one a 10. but i think the thing that holds me back is thinking about the other episodes you know and how it stacks up against my favorite episodes that i would give an unhesitating 10. right i don't think i'm quite there so i think i can in good conscience give this one a 9.8 and i'll leave it at that i guess for me ii feel like when i think back on this episode i enjoy it i think about like a lot of our listeners have written in saying how much they love this episode and how much it makes them cry how romantic it is that's not really what i go in for for holmes you know like i appreciate that this one is there that it exists and this and that but like you said like when i think of my favorite episodes this one isn't always up there i think i would probably have to settle and iii can never remember what my previous votes were but i think i'd go for something around 9.5 that's respectable still an a yeah absolutely it's a good score i feel like people are going to think we're being soft on these episodes but they are very good and we will be harsh soon we're still in the beginning we're still at the ones that are great yeah i agree with what you're saying but ii don't mind ii these are almost all a's in my opinion yeah all right well let's check in with mrs hudson for a segment we like to call mrs hudson's housekeeping okay well i think we can just talk really quickly about what we've been up to the last month or so i feel like we're always making excuses for why the show takes so long but uh long story short luke and i were invited to shoot werner herzog's next film yeah by mr herzog himself which was pretty unexpected i mean w e had worked with him in the past on a few projects but he had need of a small but industrious crew to help out at the last minute to help him shoot a lot of footage very quickly and so he decided to give us a call so within a week or so of the invite we were off on a two-week shoot across the united states with the great director himself yeah heck of an honor yeah not really a lot we can share about it yet but no once it gets announced and is public will certainly let you know more i guess all we can really say is that it was an incredible experience i know i learned a lot and worked harder than maybe i ever have so yeah it was wild yeah and just to kind of hear you know from from someone else because we you know i haven't worked with many other directors or photographers because we usually work with each other yeah so it was nice to you know hear things like lens choices and lighting choices from someone as established as him yeah it was quite an adventure and i'm sure we'll have mor e to say about it when the movie is out there for sure another thing we've been working on in that time is capturing a lot of interviews with different casts and crew members from the show so we will have a lot of stuff to share coming up yeah lots of interesting stories so um we'll be happy to share those with you soon and for anyone who's been asking merch i added it to our website so if you go to sherlockpodcast.com there's a link to the merchandise and so if you need a dancing men's shirt or an i am a breton shirt they are available yeah and we did actually sell out for a while of our posters and relics kits but they are back in stock so those are available to anyone looking to pick those up all right well let's check out some listener telegrams today we begin with quite a special letter hand written to us by the great lady herself miss june wyndham davies she wrote how good of you it was to air my bio before the musgrave ritual one of my favorite shows despite jeremy's awful illne ss periods of great depression and feelings of inadequacy he was a great joy when on form there is truly not a better depiction of homes anywhere fortunately we had a great understanding he once ran away during rehearsals and nobody could find him i was working on another series then but i remembered that the midland hotel had some horses stabled in the back of the building so i went down there and that's where i found him cradling in the back of the stall he loved horses and wanted to be with them we went for a long walk around manchester and i managed to dissuade him from returning to london we bought some apples for the horses and i walked him back to the studios thank you for the bio which you read beautifully i am very flattered my sincere good wishes for you to succeed love june i get a little shaky reading that to be honest it's great to hear from her for sure yeah and i think it's another story that just will make people love jeremy even more too yeah and i mean a little back s tory probably is required there our collaborator david yule who is responsible for so many of the interviews we have released and are soon to release for the podcast david has been in contact with june and as much as we would be willing to drop everything and fly to france if it meant the opportunity to interview her about the series yeah she has respectfully declined to participate in an interview at this time for various reasons but she took the time to send us this incredibly kind note which you know was so generous of her to do and i don't know i it's something i know i will always treasure so i mean to say thank you june seems truly inadequate but june if you are listening we love you and we hope that you are doing well and anytime you feel like reminiscing about the show you just let us know and we'll be there definitely okay well our next telegram comes from friend of the show ian who writes dear breton pod leaders that's us i'm glad you are back and saddened to hear of michael cox's death i do not enjoy the musgrave ritual episode very much and i don't like the edgy tone with the opening sex scene much as it paints everyone involved in a very unlikable light the episodes i really love tend to try to have some strong points of appeal in the clients and the connection between homes and their need for justice this has no real justice just boredom drugs and tawdry murder and suicide the acting in filmmaking is top notch but i just can't get involved in the people plus i don't tend to enjoy the touches of horror and the macabre as much still i am very much looking forward to the abby grange tr bowen's second episode bowen is my favorite of the frequent writers thanks for such a great listen signed ian well thanks ian um it is interesting we actually have a few emails coming up in a similar vein it turns out that the muskrat ritual is not everyone's cup of tea i do have to say though uh your use of the word tawdry is perhaps the right word i mean it does make sens e here i can certainly see how that would drag it down uh for some viewers i guess i can embrace it though since you know it's just one episode i think it gives a unique feeling yeah it's unique we're a sex-positive podcast but i could see how maybe it's not for everyone so you know i get that it's true but it's followed up immediately by the most romantic episodes so sure you get a little bit of everything and i think you know everybody should have a little bit of something nasty on the side every once in a while sure a little bit of nasty good friend of the show mary writes in to say normally i agree with the two of you about everything but although i enjoy this episode for itself as a homezian it wrangles me a bit the homes of the canon is actually very compassionate in his view of musgrave while in the granada version holmes is a complete jerk to this really nice rather gentle fellow musgrave is very shy and uncertain of himself not worthy of such nastiness i agree musgrave is a je rk in the story to dismiss brunton for snooping around but for the most part he seems to be rather decent to his servants and had a hard time of it in school the holmes in the books regards musgrave as a friend i don't think canon homes would get coked up the first night to visit and in the books holmes never uses drugs when he's away from baker street i think this is very much jeremy as homes rather than homes and while it's not a bad thing i don't like the episode as much as others from this season michael culver however is wonderful you mention him on a horse and he is near and dear to my heart because i saw him on reruns as the stuffy squire armstrong in black beauty a great 70s british tv show so if you want to see culver playing an actual stuffed shirt this is a great example although for some reason i adored his character as a kid i also think the supporting cast of ritual is great so i do like seeing this episode when it pops up but cringe during the cocaine sleeping in the but ler's bed and all sorts of things i don't think even in eccentric-like homes of the canon would have done signed mary yeah again ii think that's all legit criticism i think as jeremy would himself say at some point it's hard to know what works until you try it sometimes i think that's all fair and i think you know david carson pointed out to us that this was kind of a setup for him ditching the drugs in a later episode right so i mean i think as a storyline i think it was a good choice and though you know i kind of disagree i mean obviously because we've already said all this but i do feel like even though holmes might have considered this guy a friend i think he gets bored at the commonplace and so this guy being so normal and so common maybe he's like i'm just gonna liven it up with some drugs like sure i could see that being true too like he's uncomfortable in social settings yeah and so he's just livening it up a little bit i think it all works but it's it's unique it's you know fo r me anyway it's it's different and it doesn't stray too far from conan doyle's intentions so you know it makes good television it also kind of shows the habit side of drugs though too i think you know that it's it's not always convenient and kept at home right but yeah thanks mary it's always good to hear from you yeah we have another telegram also in response to the musgrave ritual ellie writes in to say this episode is great partly because it follows one of the key rules of sherlock holmes adaptations it's always better with more watson i especially like hardwick's jovial mood with cranky homes his mischievous smile when he thinks of snooping through the old case box his triumph with solving the final instruction and under and his side eye at musgrave after explaining about the personal equation i hope this episode makes you hesitate a little more before answering the question who is the best watson well i don't know if it'll do that but it it's it's hard to argue with any of that i mean but as we've said in the past both gentlemen are indisputably great i mean for for different reasons yeah i myself i just i never like having to answer the question who is the better watson because you know even though i myself have asked it of others yeah just because they are both so grand i mean we're we're so lucky to have both i mean think think of that what if they got someone else to replace david burke i mean the choice of watson's i mean i think it really significantly affects the tone of the adaptation so yeah i couldn't be happier with both i just i do think that had david burke stayed we would have seen him grow and age as a character and their relationship as friends would have evolved and you know it's impossible to say what might have been but i always just i just feel slightly melancholy that we never got to see that happen yeah and i think like as you said it's like we've got an amazing replacement but i do i always think about um auditions and how different they are if you're an actor or if you're on the casting side right and and normally when an actor goes into an audition they're thinking how can i convince them that i'm the right person for this job whereas when you're on the casting side you're just waiting for the right person to walk in right and if david burke walked in to me he would be like he's the right guy he just has everything yeah in my mind of what of what watson is and if david burke didn't walk in and edward hardwick walked in he's so close right that you would be you would be ecstatic to find him yeah but and honestly you know ii said what i said about what could have been but if that would have happened if david burke would have stayed we would have missed out on edward hardwick so i mean exactly yeah what can you say we got both yeah they're both great i'm glad it worked out how it did the next telegram comes in from andrew he writes hi gus and luke thank you so much for all of your hard work on the podcast it's really a fascinating listen and you seem to have found a very homesy in way to present yours and our passion with an investigative spirit a calm authority and a real eye for detail well thank you andrew that's nice of you to say i've been a holmes fan since i was a teenager when i read all the books and was just old enough to see the later jeremy brad episodes first airing when i was growing up i found him captivating and despite other pretenders to the crown he will always be sherlock holmes for me no one else is close a common feeling i know after hearing you mention the audio books read by edward hardwick i thought i'd see if you'd heard a series of audio recordings of the home stories read by robert hardy in the early 1980s hardy of course went on to play charles augustus milberton with suitable relish when i first discovered holmes it was robert hardy's readings that i heard on cassettes from my local library his readings are absolutely superb his characterizations his energy his theatric ality and his incarnations of holmes and watson are to my mind the best out there certainly better than hardwick a great actor but i would say not quite right for this task and dare i say it even better than stephen fry hardy's voice seems to belong in the world of conan doyle and his readings have a dramatic quality about them that i think you would both really enjoy i've been looking for them in some digital format for years and at last in recent months they have been reissued on the itunes store and here in the uk on audible i'm sure you could track them down too if you've heard them i'd be really curious to know what you think or if they are waiting for you to discover them i hope you'll like them too looking forward to the abbey grange by the way i live in brighton nestling just below the sussex downs a great place to keep bees and free the mind all the best to both of you andrew well andrew um actually i don't know about you luke but i had not heard about these audiobooks until n ow i have not but better than stephen fry blasphemous well i'm determined to give them a listen so once we've had a chance uh we'll definitely report back but um that's a fantastic lead so thank you for sharing that with everyone yeah and speaking of audiobooks some time back we mentioned the cassette tapes that i had come across we finally got around to digitizing these with some help from a very dear friend of ours whose name actually happens to be mr john clay good friend of ours but we have just added those to youtube so if you're interested in hearing the 1994 audiobooks for the man with the twisted lip the musgrave ritual the priory school and the second stain read by michael cochran but with audio clips from the granada series do check out our youtube channel for those i should say though we posted those and they were immediately flagged for copyright we're not monetizing them but they are not available to listen to in the uk or germany i'm sure that's just down to the rights th ey've negotiated but yeah unfortunately we can't get around that however we posted them on our patreon and there are no restrictions so if you happen to be a patron of ours you can listen to them right now yeah and they're they're interesting i mean uh they're not dissimilar to our podcast in that it's an it's a narrator with a different script inserting clips from the granada series it really was a an undertaking to get these put up because they're old audio tapes i don't know if they were always sped up in the way that they were or if the tape shrunk because of age or you know i don't i don't know what but they had to be digitally adjusted in terms of both speed and pitch you know they may or may not be totally perfect but um they're close and they're um you know they're a fun little series related bit to check out which frankly other than you know our main show appearing on our youtube channel that's kind of what our youtube channel has become is just kind of a little series related stuff that we can add um if you if you decide you want to track down that stuff so yeah it's possible youtube might crack down on us for the copyrighted material um i mean it's an out-of-print audiobook on cassette who knows but if you're interested in checking those out i'd say do so while the getting is good speaking of series related tidbits we did get a message from one of our listeners named mark williamson and he he sent us a bunch of pictures which i'd like to post on our twitter and he's already given me permission to do so but he's visited a number of the locations and he wrote saying today i was in bowdoin where the norwood builder was filmed and he says i was afraid i was mistaken over the church for scandal bohemia being on the same street but here are some photos of the house which another location site claims is the scene of the crime and then he says the white house is next door and i apologize for not being able to get closer to the actual house a local resident told m e it belongs to the pop star morrissey who guards his privacy i thought that was a fun little tidbit so which house is morrissey's house i'm not positive because he says the white house is next door okay i apologize for not being able to get closer to the actual household oh i see marcy i so ii think it means he lives in the actual house which would be pretty wild and then i wonder if he's a fan and then i wonder if he wonders why are these people taking a picture of my house he doesn't know it's because of sherlock yeah and i think we have permission to share those photos so hopefully we'll we'll get those up on twitter soon and you can check those out yeah friend of the show claire wrote in with a very thoughtful email she says hi gus and luke hi claire i am such a fan of your podcast as growing up my family was enthralled by jeremy brett's portrayal of homes we used to rush to clear up our dinner plates and run to the telly to catch each episode from the very beginning as the music and titles were such a large part of the experience and still give me all the feels to this day i have been musing for some time on the female perspective portrayed in sherlock holmes but thought now would be the time to get my thoughts down in an email i have been struck by the frequency in which the tales relate to women's experiences of crime take away the gloves bustles and veils of the victorian era and many of these stories would be recognized by women the world over today in the solitary cyclist and the dancing men we see both forced marriage or threat of it and stalking there is also the imprisonment and emotional abuse of alice rue castle subsequently miss hunter experiences mr castle's attitude flicking like a switch between generosity and good humor to both veiled and outright threats to that dear young lady including throwing her to the mastiff such devices are used by abusers to this day to knock their victims off balance and make them doubt their own senses domestic viole nce and abuse features again in the speckled band miss stoner captures the essence of why many abuse victims stay with their abusers not only is she financially dependent on her stepfather until she marries but he is the only father she has ever known he may be a brute but she has no one else to love abby grange may well have the worst fake blood in the history of tv but as a story of domestic violence and abuse it is chilling as soon as we discover that lady brakenstall's dog has been killed we know exactly the character of her husband he is a man sending a clear message i can do anything i like i can destroy everything you love and i will the next time you displease me maybe i will destroy you so are all these crimes used merely to cast women in the role of victim and allow a heroic holmes and watson to come to their rescue a traditional damsel in distress story perhaps yet many of the sherlock stories go beyond the crimes where a woman happens to be a victim and explore those where women are victims because they are women perhaps conan doyle just wrote what he saw but with a modern eye these stories expose a society whose inbuilt structures make women vulnerable i feel that these stories at least in the granada retelling resonate with women and how this fear is intensified by how trapped they are by these rules imposed on them by society how reliant they are on the men around them being good men and if they aren't good men they rely on other good men standing up and saying no that's not acceptable what is also interesting is that despite holmes's low opinion of women he doesn't appear to blame them for their victimhood he recognizes the danger in the low whistle the following cyclist the cut lock of chestnut hair and yet does not demand that the female victim make themselves homeless and jobless in order to escape from danger instead he fights to ensure that criminals are stopped and that whatever the law says evil is punished and good rewarded and women are free d from cruelty in the solitary cyclist a forced marriage is no marriage despite what the license and the clergymen say and in the abbey grange he allows the killer of a violent abusive husband to avoid arrest and trial he is confident that however society changes the moral argument will remain the same and win out these are just my thoughts on how nuanced some of the stories are when it comes to the threats facing women it's not all jewel thieves street fights forgeries and international intrigue keep churning out the podcasts they are adding much joy to these restricted and worrying times we live in regards claire well thank you claire i mean what an insightful note i mean obviously we now enjoy the benefit of time and the yeah historical lens i guess through which we can look back on these tales but i don't know as a guy i have often wondered what the female perspective on the canon has been over the decades so i think this is a great way to look at this i mean i sometimes have worri ed in the past that there is a bit of a damsel in distress element to these tales that you know could find itself sitting on the wrong side of more modern sensibilities but that's true but i think as she points out it's the behavior is pretty typical and predictable and right not based in any decade or even century true i don't think you could necessarily consider doyle a feminist but for the time sure i mean i think he you know the approach to these stories was possibly more measured and considered you know exploring those details and and what it was like to be a woman rather than just there's damsel in distress we go and saber it's like we do go deeper yeah and you know maybe holmes isn't so emotionally engaged but he is dedicated to stopping evil and in terms of you know conan doyle's point of view i guess whenever i read anything older i try to look at it in the context of history you know ii don't look i don't just go looking for negatives ii you know i look for positives and and not just with homes but in all forms of drama i think that's important because i think right now especially you know we're canceling a lot of older authors and artists and things like that which you know maybe some of them deserve it but i think at the same time you almost have to look for the good because it was really easy to look for the bad back then because we weren't that morally advanced back then so i think if you find something good you should embrace it actually in the annotations i believe in the klinger book there is a mention of the fact that conan doyle you know he grew up in a certain household and you know had certain experiences and so he was frankly very critical of the divorce laws of that time and how it was incredibly difficult i mean it was right around this time that divorce was even state sanctioned like it was church sanctioned prior to that you know you had to go before and and frankly it was just an excuse for men to divorce their wives if they had been adult erous it wasn't like the women had any rights in the divorce situation so in this story if you read the actual text lady brackenstall makes a comment about the deplorable divorce laws of england right and that was kind of a jab that arthur conan doyle was making because of his own kind of political views but i think conan doyle definitely deserves to come out on the right side of the historical lens right now because the fact that it's in the story at all is him saying it right you know he's imposing his own politics into the story yeah and i think it's it's um it's it's great stuff claire thanks again for for writing in one last telegram today i think a listener and quite a fantastic journalist from amsterdam mark g baker sent us a very nice letter he wrote the adventure of the two wholeworders dear fellow jeremites it is my prerogative to compliment you on your excellent sherlockian podcast upon which i stumbled late last year it is an absolute treat to revisit the granada series and i have made it my habit to listen to your most exquisite insights prior to watching another episode as a seasoned journalist i take pride in my own eye for detail but it seems you have raised the bar for dissecting minutia to a whole new level i am convinced where mr sherlock holmes himself around today he would be impressed with your powers of deduction i would hardly have guessed one could deliberate to take a hypothetical example something along the lines of if you listen closely you will find that the meow of the tabby persian in the background at the end of scene 22 of the retired colormen was added afterwards and is in fact the meow of a gray british shorthair capital my dear sirs capital while on the subject of episodes never made when i turn to the original stories say black peter i see before my very eyes jeremy brett in allardyce's back shop stabbing the dead pig with his barbed headed spear rolled up shirt sleeves and all brett not the pig and turning the pages of his last bow i have to check whether i actually heard edward hardwick say i think not holmes it is very warm i must have been around 12 years of age when i first read the stories starting with dutch translations and switching to english soon after as nutritious for the mind as it may be to read sartre or camus there is no greater literary satisfaction than sitting by a fireplace with a cat on one's lap a glass of port within reach engrossed in those interesting little problems which the complex life of london so plentifully presents if only i had a fireplace and a cat once the granada series aired in holland subtitled not dubbed thank goodness i was absolutely mesmerized by brett's performance here was holmes exactly as i had envisioned him it was as if someone had secretly peeked into my imagination and brought the consulting detective to the screen i have fond memories of watching the series with my mother i must have been 14 or something at the time much to my delight i saw through brett's s ailor disguise in the sign of four my mother failed to do so she passed away the same year as jeremy brett but i have no doubt she would have been rather impressed with the expertise you gentlemen display it is reassuring to know that one is not alone in one's appreciation of brett's accomplishments but let us not forget the string of other astonishing actors involved eric porter colin jevens charles gray my word the list is endless robert hardy for instance who at the time i only knew as the good country doctor from all creatures great and small what a fantastically vile charles augustus milverton he made or joss ackland as the sinister mr rue castle when i first watched the copper beaches he scared the living daylights out of me he still does actually and indeed i may have found the solution to the mystery of who can be considered the better dr watson edward hardwick does the best hard wiki and watson and in turn david burke does the best burkian problem solved there you go yeah prai se be to the entire crew in fact costumes set dressing locations props and music everything is just down to a tee as appealing as mr cumberbatch may be to a younger generation and rightfully so i do not think we will ever see more brilliant adaptations of the canon than those with mr jeremy brett do i not have any reservations well the eligible bachelor episode went off the rails completely if i may be so bold call me a purist but it was like watching an egg dance during hamlet's soliloquy one supposes the scriptwriters indulged in a seven percent solution in this case but luckily this proved to be one of the few exceptions right ho i fear that by now i have taken up too much of your time keeping in mind my favorite line from the canon more sober men as you may guess than when they started it is time for a snifter my compliments once more for your spiffy work and might i conclude in remarking that a posthumous bafta for jeremy brett would write a great wrong kind regards mark baker pos t scriptum number one regarding your surname whole worda am i correct in assuming that you gentlemen are of frisian lineage uh pause right there to say you are in fact correct sir yes and uh we actually didn't know too much about our own lineage until not too long ago but it turns out that yes indeed our name was a friesian password at one point uh to get into a hidden village somewhere in friesland post scriptum number two a little bonus and mark offers up a few limericks here traveling through time isn't real i'm sorry if that's how you feel the whole word of bros in their podcast it shows will take you through time with great zeal and now that we're at it here's another limerick though many portrayed him with zest like rathbone gillette and the rest i say unto thee no doubt can there be that jeremy's homes is the best well what can we say thank you so much mark i mean both you know for your generous reminiscences and your excellent contributions to the canon of sherlockian limericks the line i always think of when someone tells us we've over analyzed it is i thought i'd squeeze to dry mr holmes but i see there was some left still after all oh yes mr freddie jones it's it's a great it's a great sequence ii have to say michael cox didn't love what freddie jones did with that part but we're a long ways away from getting to that so we'll get there eventually and we will defend him to the hilt that's true we love us some freddy jones okay well before we hit the road we have one more limerick from mr baker and it's apropoe of the episode we just covered so um we'll leave you with this his lordship's demise was a shocker the wife nearly went off her rocker but once we had heard her accuse three of murder it turned out it was captain crocker excellent nice little abby grange limerick for the road thank you mark and thank you to all of our listeners for your continued support as always you can find us on the web at twitter.com sherlockpod we are on youtube as well and ple 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